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welcometouhourdeepdiveintoalyysesatventuresinwonderland
sicitis
andgetreadytokindoftumbledowntherabbitholewithusasweexplorethisworld
wherelogicwell
logicdoesntreallyexistitreallydoesnt
andithinkthatspartofwhatmakesitsofascinatingrightyouknow
weallknowthebasicstoryofyouknowalicefallingdowntherabbithole
but
buttherearesomanylayerstothisstory
and
andyouknowitsreallyamazing
whatluiskirldidyeah
and
andhewasamathpetitionrightatoxford
hewasamathpetitionatoxford
andcreatedthisworld
thatdefiesallyouknowlogicandmathematicalcertaintyrightandtheresallthisstuffaboutthecareofmyth
oh yeah
yeah
likehowmuchmuchhisreallifeissortofhiddeninthesymbolist
exactlyinthestory
sotheresallthisextraintrigue
yes
andweregoingtobetalkingaboutyouknowthethemesinthesymbolimandimpimpacthashadonyouknowourculture
imeansomanyaboutitsamazing
howinfluentialthisstoryhasbeenreally
really
itreally
really yes
wewegoingtobetalkingaboutyouknowsomeofthe
thecrazyelements
yeah
ahlikethecaucusrace
oh
youhavethecaucusrace
jessicatthetrial
thestolentards
somanythings
thingstoactoaysoleletsimpactthisletsstartthebeginning
yeah
soyou
you
mamagyouyouralice
youresittingtherebytheriverbankwithyoursister
andbored
boredoutyourmind
outofhermind
rightthenthiswhiterabbitcomesrushingbynowishealwaysrunninglateorjustobsessedwithtime
is
isobsesswithtime
hesgothispocketwatch
hesmumblingtohimselfaboutbeinglate
oh yeah
ithinkthatsoneoftheiconicimagesfromthebook
andofcourse
alicesheahbeingthecuriousgirl
thatsheis
shefollowshim
ofcourse
downtherabbtle
downtherabbtle
andshefallsinthatfall
yeah
whataboutthatfall
whathappensimeanitseemslikeittakesforever
itsthisbizararalmostserealexperience
shespassingcupbodsshelvesajorgemarmalade
fallsbyherwhatastrangedetailtoincludeiknow
butthatswhatiloveaboutitsokerlisjusttakingusonthissensoryjourneythroughthisdisorientingspace
itdefinitelyisaveryvividdescriptionoffalling
itwassofasted
hesataliceisntyouknowscreamingorpanicking
shesverymatteroffactaboutit
thatsverytrue
shesalmostnonchalantaboutthewholething
rightshesmakingthesecalmobservationsaboutyouknowthecenteroftheearthintheantipathy
shemightouterlikeitsjustaneverydayoccurrencefallingdownarabbithlerightwhichofcourseshowsherinnocence
yes
herchildlikeinnocenceforsure
andherwillingnesstojustkindofaccepttheabsurd
ithinkthatswhatmakeshersuchagreatcharacter
andthisisjustthebeginningofheradventures
right
thisisjustthestartofitall
yeah
wehaventevengotintothetransformations
yah oh
thatsrightthetransformations
yes
somanytransformation
thealexgoesthroughallphysical
physicalchangesinsize
anditsnotjustaboutgettingbiggersmaller
thatstrue
itsabouthowshehadhastoadapttothisconstantlyshiftingreality
oh isee
iseeitslikewhenshedrinksthedrinkmepotion
oh yeah
shehasthismassivegrowthspert
andshestrappedinthewhiterabbitshouse
oh
nosowhatdoesshedowhilesheendsupstickingherfootofthechimneytrytogetout
oh
thatsrightidforgoneaboutthatdetail
andthensheusesafantoshrinkherselfdownwhatabizarresolutions
rightanditsthroughtheseexperiencesthatshestartstorealizethat
对对对
youknowwhatsheconsumesinwonderland
affectshersize
sotheeatmeatcakemakeshersmallexactlyyeah
andthatmanagagesescapethehouseokay
sothatsthedrinkmepotientintheeamemecake
rightanditsallverystrangeandunpredictable
whatitgrowingup
maybelikegrowingup
itssothecarealsayingthatgrowingupisthisconstantprocessofadjustment
oh
andsometimestheruleschangewithoutwarning
andwhatsinterestingisalicsonofreallyquestions
thelogicofitallnoshedoesntitslikeshesalreadyacceptedthatwonderlandoperatesonadifferentseoforleshe
sherollswithit
sheroleswithit
andthatswhatlowshertonavigatethisworldtomakessense
sowhathappensnext
wellnextsheencountersawholecastofunusualcharacters
oh
ilovethecharactersinthisbook
metootheressomemorable
嗯
sowegotthemouse
edotothoughlorrytheeagle
itandAAfewthersersinacollectivegroup
theyallendupparticipatinginthiscrazyevent
calledthecaucusrace
oh yes
thecaucusracetellmeaboutthat
welltheyveallgotinsoakingwetokay
andthedodotodecidesthatthebestwaytodryoffistohavearace
arace
butwhatkindofraceisit
itscompletelynoncyticical
theyallrunaroundinacircleforawhile
thatsoundsaboutrightforwonderland
andthentheyvedeclarethemselveswinners
ofcoursetheydorightitsjustthiswonderstlyabsurdscenethatmakesyouquestion
yeah
youknowhowoftendoweengageinrichwallesorroutines
yeah
thatareequallypointlessyeah
butwejustacceptthem
thatsagoodpointlike
likewhatareourcaucuracesinreallife
exactly
exexactly
thenduringthiswholecaucusracingthingelseyouknow
trytoto
tomakeconsatailokay
andsheasksthemousetotellitstail
oh
itslonginsadtail
yes
themouseagreestotellitslonginsadtail
wow
butthenitturnsouttobeaboutlitlitertaltaexexactlyyeah
kirleswordplayit
itsfineest
oh
ilovethatpartsoclever
itisitssoclever
andthenunfortunatelyalicecanthelpitmentionhercatdinina
oh
rightdinina
andofcoursealltheanimals
frefreout
right
understandablyiguesscatsinmiconallit
itws
wsalalisstill
stilllearningrulesof
ofworld
right
right
andhowherwordscanhavetheseuntendedconconsequcessoiteveninannorthsensicalworld
wordsstillhavepower
theydo
theydoso
wheredoesaleasgofromthere
wellshecontinuesonherjourney
andsheencounteresevenmoreaccentriccharacters
likewhowellsherunsintothewhiterabbit
againoh
thewhiterabbitwhomistakesherforhishousemade
oh no
andsenseareonanair
andhesstillalwaysinsucharush
oh
hesalwaysrushing
aboutsohesliketheembodiementofanxiety
maybeithinkso
ithinkso
嗯
andthentheresthecheshuraat
at oh
thecheasurecatoneofmyfavouritehhessointriguing
heis
hesareallyanigma
heis
andheappearsanddisappearsitwillyeah
andhehastheseveryphilosophicalconversationswithaliceaboutwhataboutmadnessandthenatureofdirection
ithinkirememberhim
sayingwereallmadhere
是的 对的 yes
yeah
hedoes
thathesdefinitelycharactermakesyouthinkhedoes
hedoeschallengingelssesorperceptionsofreality
exactly
andthenwehavethemadteapartywithhatter
themadhatterandthemarchairinthedormouse
thatsrightdontforgetthedmoutheyrehavingthisneverendingteaparty
oh
themadteapartyitssoiconic
itis
andtheirconversationsarejustpurenonsense
ilovethelittlelittlewithnoanswer
oh yes
thelittle
andtheyreconstantlyshiftingplacesatthetableandspillingtea
everywhereitschaos
purechaos
itsawonderfulkindofchaos
thoughitisitsaveryentertainingkindofchaos
yeah
andithinkitsmorethanjustsillyfun
theresalotofsaatiregoingoohabsolutelykcarolisdefinitelyusingthemadteapartytocritiquesocialconventionsokay
andhowsowelltimehasnomeaningatthemadteaparty
rightandlogiciscompletelyabandoneditslikearebellionagainsttherigidstructureofvictoriansocisocity
tyactly
anditmakesyouwonder
whatwouldhappen
ifwealljuststoppedfollowingtheclockforawhileum
whatwouldhappen
wouldwefindfreedom
orwouldwejustdescendedthemadness
thatsagreatquestionuponderandspeakingofquestioningthings
krelplayswithlogicandlanguagethroughoutthestory
oh hedoes
hedefinitelydoes
hechallengesourassumptionsabouthowtheworldworks
givemeanexample
welltakethequeenofheartsforinstance
thequeenofheartsalwaysshssthrereateningtohehebeofffortheirheads
exactlyofffortheirheads
anditssoarbitrary
andjustthatstrue
thatstrue
itslikeasatireofpower
right
howitcanbemisused
absolutely
andthekingisjustasbad
hejustmakesuprules
ashegoesalhesforgottenabouttheking
hesapieceofworktooisyesand
andtheresallthewordplay
oh yeah
thewordlikethedormelsegkingaboutafreklewellrightorthegrifffinexplaining
whywaitingiscalledawaiting
howilovethatpartitssosilly
itssosillyum
butitmakesyouthinkabouthowlanguagecanbeusedtodistortmeaning
thatstrue
thatstrue
anditsnotjustthelanguagethatsbeingdistoredright
alseisasenseofselfisalsoconstantlybeingchallengedwell
yeah
becauseshesalwayschangingsizeexactly
andthatmustbeconfusingforher
itisshesgoingtothisidentitycrisis
spryingtofigureoutwhosheisinthisworld
wherenothingisstableright
andithinkthatresonateswithalotofpeople
especiallyyoungpeoplewhoaregoingthroughthatsameprocessofselfdiscoverythatsagoodpoint
agoodpoint
itslikeshesgoingthroughanacceleratedadolescenceandwonderderit
exactly
exactly
andthenallofthis
leadsuptotheclimaxofthestory
thetrialofthenameofhearts
oh
thetrialthatsawholeotherlevelofabsurdity
itis
itslikeallthethemes
wewevebeentalkingabouttheobsurity
itythatjusticelanguguitthewholiletogetherinthischaoticcourtroomdrama
itsabrilliantsatareofthelegalsystem
absolutely
theevidenceisnotsensical
thewitnessesareunreliable
andtheverdictisprettymuchpredetermined
exactly
thequeenisincharge
bothshesnot
exactly no
forherfairness
no
sheisntoffwithherheadrightandthroughoutthetrial
alicehasbeengrowinglargerlitliterand
metaphorically
itsexactly
bothliterallyandmetaorically
yeah
andshefinallyreachesherbreakingpoint
whathappenedshestandsuptothequeen
declaresyoure
nothingthatapackaccards
wow
whatpowerfulmoment
itisitsamomentofrebellion
wheresherejectstheologicalrulesofwonderland
shesfinallyhadenough
shehas
andsheassertsherownsenseofreasoninjustice
sowhathappensafterthatwell
thats
whateverythingstartstounravel
and
andthenvelhowsothecardsstartflyingather
thecards
yes
theplayingcards
oh
whatandthencertainlysheacceptshewinksup
soitwasalladream
wellitseemsthatway
shefindsherselfbackontheriverbank
withhersisterbackintherealworld
backintherealworld
anditisifthewholeadventurewasjustadream
butyouthinkitreallywasjustadream
thatsagoodquestion
imeansometimesdreamsstaywithus
theydo
theydo
theychangethewayweseetheworld
somaybeitsnotaboutwhetheritwasrealornotright
butaboutwhatalicetakesawayfromtheexperience
exactly
exactly
andithinkthatssomethingwecanallrelatetohm
iagreeweveallhadexperiences
thathaveshapedwhoweare
eveniftheywerentasfantasticalasalyssadventure
right
right
soeventhoughshesbackintheordinaryworld
shesnotthesamegirlwhofelldowntherabitallsheslearnandrownfromherjourney
shehas
shehas
shesintheabsurdityoftheworld
theflludityoflanguage
thepowerofimagination
whatdoyouthinkshetakesawayfromthatexperiles
sheslearnsthatitsokaytoquestiontherules
youknowyeahtoembracethenondcicicaltofindwonderintheunexpectedandperhaps
mostimportantlyshelearnsthatshehasthepowertocreateherownreality
oh
ilovethatidea
itslikecarelesssayingthatwedonthavetobepassiveobserversinourownlives
youknowwecanactivelyshapeourexperiences
evenifitmeanschallengingthestatuscteandembracingalittlebitofchaos
andthatsamessage
thatresonateswithreadersofallages
evenoveracenturylateritdoes
doesweallhaveourownwonderancetoexploreourownrabbitholestofalldown
right
anditsthatreminder
thatworldisfullllpossipossiiliilities
werewillingtolookbeyondthesurfaceandembracetheabsurd
ithinkthatsoneofthereasons
whyelseisofventureinwonderlandandcontinuestobesopopular
itisitsaclassic
itspeakstothatchildlikesenseofwonderandpossibility
thatweallhave
withinusandthatbringsusto
weknowoneofthosememorablepartsofthestory
oh
whichpartthemadteaparty
ahyes
themadteapartywiththemadhatter
themadhatter
themarchahairdormouse
thedoormouse
yeah right
andtheyrehavingthisneverendingteapartytrappedinaloopofnonsensicalconversationexactlyandriddleswithnosolutions
itsjustpurechaosandabsurdity
itis
andithinkitsabrilliantsaattireofsocialconventions
youknow
oh
howsowelltimehasnomeaningatthemadteaparty
okaylogiciscompletelyabandonedgreatright
anditslikecrelsaying
whatwouldhappen
ifwealljuststopfollowingtheclockforawhile
yeah
wouldwefindfreedom
orwouldwejustdescendintomadness
thatsagreatquestion
itsquestionforallofustoponderthinkidliketotryitjustforaday
sowhathappened
maybe
maybe
butyouknow
beforewegettoolossinthemamateiparty
umweshouldtalkaboutcarolsuseoflanguage
oh yes
thelanguageitssoplayfulandinventive
itis
itisusespunsandwordplayanddistortedmeaningstocreatethisworld
wherewordsdontalwaysmean
whatyouthinktheymean
exactlyitmakeskespayattentiontotheword
idoesitmakesyouthinkaboutthemultiplelayersofmeaning
okaysogivemeanexamplewelllikethedoormousetalkingaboutatricklewellokayyouknoworthegrifffinexplaining
whyawritingiscalledawriting
ahthisaregoodones
itsalsosillyanclever
itis
itisandmakesyourealizedthatlanguagecanbebothplayfulandmisleading
iagree
iagree
girlwasamasteroflanguage
thatsforsurehewas
andyouknowitsnotjustthelanguagethatsbeingdistorted
oh
whatelseanalyssenseofselfisalsoconstantlybeingchallengealright
becauseshesalwayschangingsize
exactlyshesgoingthroughthisidentitycrisistryingtofigureoutwhosheisahinaworld
wherenothingisstable
itslikeshestryingondifferentidentitiesseeingwhatfits
andithinkthatsomethingalotofpeoplecanrelatetoespeciallyyoungpeoplewhoaregoingthroughthatsameprocessofselfdiscovered
absolutely
absolutely
theninallofthis
leadsuptotheclimaxofthisstory
yeah
thetrialofthenameofhearts
hhthetrialthatsawholeotherlevelofabsurdity
itis
itis
itslikeallthethethings
wewevevetalkingabouttheobsurditythatjustice
thelanguageitallcomestogetherinthischaoticcourtroomdrama
itsAAculminationofeverythingthatscomebeforeitis
and
andyouknowtheevidenceisnonsensical
thewitnessesareunreliable
andtheverdictisprettymuchpredetermined
ofcourseitisitsthequeenscourt
afterallrightandthroughoutthetrial
alicehasbeengrowinglarger
bothliterally
unmetaphically
exactly
shesbeengainingconfidence
andshesstartingtoseethroughtheobsurityofit
allshsfindinghervoice
andfinallyshereachesherbreakingpoint
whathappenstoshejustexplode
well
notliterally
butshedoesstandup
uptoqueenenshestandsuptothequeen
wow
thatsbraveitis
shedeclaresyoure
nothingbutapackaccards
whatapowerfulmomentitis
itisitsamomentofabelwheresherejejectsthelogicalrulesofwonderland
wellitstartshersenseofreason
exactly
yeah
andyouknowitsinteresting
becausethishelpersactuallyleadstoherawakenening
awakeneningwhatmemewellaftersheyiellsatthequeen
thecardsstartflyingather
oh
anditsuddenly
shefindsherselfbackontheriverbankwithhersister
tooitwasalladream
wellinseeseethatyeah
itsalmostlikeshewasshakenawake
yeahlikethedreamcouldntcontainher
anymore
thatsareallyinterestingwaytolookatit
soaheslikeintherealworld
backintherealworld
yeah
butyouthinkitreallywasjust
justdredream
thatsagoodquestion
imeansometimesdreamsstaywithusrighttheychangethewayweseetheworld
theydo
theydo
soeventhoughshesbackintheordinaryworld
shesnotthesamegirlwhofelldowntherabbit
sheslearnedandgrownfromherjourney
shehas
shes
shesthe
theobdityoftheworld
world
thefluidityoflanguage
thepowerofimagination
umwhatdoyouthinkshetakesawayfromthatexperience
ithinkshelearnsthatitsokayquestion
the
therules
ahtoembracethenonsensicaldefine
wonderintheunexpectedandperhaps
mostimportantly
shelearnsthatshehasthepowertocreateherownreality
ilovetheidea
solikecarelissayingthatwedonthavetobepassiveobserversinourownlives
youknowwecanactivelyshapeourexperiences
evenifitmeanschallengingthestatusquooandembracingalittlebitofchaos
andthatsamessagethatresonateswithreadersofallagesevenovercenturylater
itdoes
itweallhaveourownwandderlands
toexploreourownrabitholestofalldown
exactly
anditsthatreminder
thattheworldisfullofpossibilities
ifwerewillingtolookbeyonthesurfaceandembracetheabsurgeray
yeah
andithinkthatsoneofthereasons
whyalyssesofvigresinwonderlandcontinuestobesopopular
itspeakstothatchildexsensive
wonderandpossibility
thatweallhavewithinusitdoes
anditencouragesustouseourimaginationstocreateourownwords
andtoneverstopquestioningtherules
soasweconcludeourdeepdie
thatthealyssesofventuresinwonderland
iwanttoleaveyouwiththisthought
whatsyourwonderland
whatsthatthing
thatsparksyourcuriosity
thatmakesyouquestiontheoniorthatremindsyouofthepowerofimaginationholdontothatfeeling
becausethekeytounlockingaworldofpossibilities
beautifullysaidalyysadventuresinwonderlandisagift
thatkeepsongivingareminder
thattheworldisfullofwonderandabsurdity
andthatwehavethepowertochoosehowwenavigatedthanksforjoiningusonthisjourneydowntherabbithole
wehopeyouevenenjoytheride